Green Zebra Hybrid

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Question: Are there any F-1 Green Zebra Hybrid tomatoes?

Answer: Yes

Question: Are they available to the average gardener?

Answer: No. Should they be?

Question: How many seeds do you have of a hybrid Green Zebra?

Answer: About 50 seed. But I could make more if the market wanted them.

Question: Would you sell any of those seeds?

Answer: I have a fellow that was part of the early Micro Soft organization - something like #15, I dunno, that wants me to put together a web site that features unusual tomato seeds. I have many hundreds of F-1 hybrid seed of all kinds of tomatoes. But most of them are in quantities of 50 +/- seeds. Would you pay a premium to obtain a Hybrid Green Zebra? Would you be interested in buying one seed so that you can grow out all kinds of F-2 tomato plants? Could you conceive of creating you own Newer New Green Zebra in a selfing program? Would you pay enough to support part of a breeding program so that it can get off the ground?

Question: Maybe. Would you agree to ___ dollars per seed?

Answer: I'm sorry! How much did you say?

The above is conjecturing the inconclusive about sourcing hybrid Green Zebra tomatoes. The expository as follows covers data about the questions and answers.





New Green Zebra is an OP version of my Green Zebra tomato. I believe I sent it out to a few people at various times or the last 15 years. The seed I am extracting this year is F-12, which means it is true breeding – stable- for quite a while now. The original cross was with Green Zebra, a variety I had developed starting nearly 50 years ago and has been stable for 38 years now. The other variety is no longer extant – excepting- my own seed saving.

New Green Zebra – for want of a better name- is basically a look alike Green Zebra – has the trendy recessive genes that personifies the original Green Zebra which is classically a green flesh with green striped tomato fruit. The segregation resulting from selfing the seed was not simple….literally hundreds (maybe thousands) of sibling vines were discarded in the past fifteen years of single seed descent observations. The selection process had little to do with science; however the template of selection by me(Tom Wagner) and other folks had fine-tuned this new clone. The original population was selected from being Yellow Zebras until a single plant segregated for the phenotype of a Green Zebra.

In creating a new strain of Green Zebra; the other parental clone had attributes that undoubtedly contributed to the final product of my New Green Zebra. I compiled a list of traits of the other parent clone. Be assured that many traits of this extant variety has been inherited by the New Green Zebra and I truly think it has one or more of the traits listed 12,13, and 14. I could send in samples of New Green Zebra to a lab that specializes in identifying disease resistances, but that will wait until another day.

1.high yield
2.extremely smooth
3.large red, deep globe shaped fruit
4.firm
5.uniform fruit with excellent flavor
6.smooth blossom end and shoulders
7.concentrated ripening – medium early
8.light-green shoulder
9.fruit stems are jointed
10.compact vines
11.excellent for shipping
12.Resistance: verticillium wilt race 1
13.-fusarium wilt races 1 and 2
14.-tobacco mosaic virus
15.-gray leaf spot
16.Adaptation: California and the midwestern/southern United States
17.Ripens well as a mature green harvest and also ripens well with ethylene gas

I have a number of plants of the F-1 hybrid between the Green Zebra and New Green Zebra – in the greenhouse and in the field. I have a selected few folks trialling the hybrid as well. The hybrid seems to have more yield, few problems, a semi-determinate vine, and over-all classic Green Zebra traits.

Contingency plans

I have used the New Green Zebra in many crosses to develop germ plasm for future plans of things that could go wrong and/or right. Quite a few of those crosses are now in stable lines and hybrids of these in even further crosses are in post hybrid selfing programs.

Tom Wagner

To show you how busy I have been or otherwise,
I still have stacks of potato berries from last year
waiting to be processed for seed.

Notice how some berries are purple? This is kinda
like my purple/blue tomato breeding work.

New updates are forthcoming soon.

This winter and until about April I am offering my Potato Sampler again. It is an 8 lb. box sent postpaid and delivered in two days or so. I usually put about 5 to 20 varieties together. The varieties could be little known varieties from around the world or exclusive varieties out of my potato breeding program. I ask $40 to cover shipping costs and the rest to support my research.

I usually give my address to folks over emails, but here it is:
Tom Wagner
Tater Mater Seeds
8407 18th Ave. West
7-203
Everett, WA 98204
425 894-1123

I have many of the standards such as Yukon Gold, Norland, Kennebec, Cobblers, but if you want some potatoes to try that you wont find at any of the other places offering seed potatoes just send me a line, email, or phone call. The picture on the right is a shot of my "John Tom Kaighin" potato variety.

I know, it is in French, but then many of the attendees will be French speaking.


Programme 2009 des conférences et des séminaires de Tom Wagner


Tom Wagner et son traducteur Québécois Michel Lachaume seront accompagnés par Alan Bishop , le fondateur du réseau Homegrown Goodness, en Amérique du Nord.


- Le 12 septembre, à midi, Tom Wagner animera une conférence au Château de Labourdaisière, à Montlouis (37), invité par Louis-Albert De Broglie, pour le Festival de la Tomate au Conservatoire National de la Tomate, sis au Château.


- Le 12 septembre, au soir, Tom Wagner animera une conférence à la Fête de la Tomate à Haverskerque (59), invité par Franck Bédouet.


- Le 13 septembre, Tom Wagner participera toute la journée à la Fête de la Tomate à Haverskerque (59).


- Le 14 septembre au soir Tom Wagner sera reçu à l'Hôtel de Ville de Bruxelles.


- Les 15/16 septembre, Tom Wagner animera un séminaire de 2 jours à Gembloux en Belgique. Inscriptions chez Kokopelli Belgique.


- Les 22/23 septembre, Tom Wagner animera un séminaire de 2 jours au Château de la Bourdaisière. Inscriptions chez Kokopelli France.


- Les 25/26 septembre, Tom Wagner animera un séminaire de 2 jours à Morlaix. Inscriptions chez Kokopelli France.


- Le 27 septembre, Tom Wagner sera présent à une fête paysanne à Craonne en Bretagne sur laquelle Lucine Jegat présentera 300 variétés de pommes de terre.


- Les 28/29 septembre, Tom Wagner sera l'invité de Bio d’Aquitaine. Il animera une journée de formation le 28 septembre et donnera une conférence à 14 heures le 29 septembre. Inscription près de Bio d'Aquitaine.


- Le 1 er octobre, Tom Wagner sera à la Coopérative Longo Maï près de Forcalquier.


- Les 3/4 octobre, Tom Wagner animera un séminaire de 2 jours en Suisse Romande. Inscription près de Sandra.


Tom Wagner ira ensuite animer des formations en Allemagne, en Autriche, au Danemark, en Angleterre et en Irlande

I have found this a hard subject to make simple. But here goes...

Tomato late blight resistance genes are non-allelic

Quote:
Non-allelic genes are genes located at different loci on the same
chromosome or on different chromosomes altogether.


The gene, Ph-3, Chromosome 9
Ph-1 (chromosome 7
Ph-2 (chromosome 10).

Reports are that
Quote:
WV106
carried a single dominant allele conditioning a high level
of resistance to P. infestans tomato race 0 (T0)
(Ph-1)

and that WV700 possessed one or more dominant resistance genes (but is associated with Ph-2)


Quote:
Researchers at the AVRDC identified resistance to late blight from Solanum pimpinellifolium L. accession L3708. Segregation data obtained for resistance do not support the hypothesis of single gene control of the full resistance trait, but suggest that more than one gene is involved, and that these genes interact in an epistatic manner. Differential responses were also observed between the resistant CU-R lines and the resistant CLN-R lines, which were independently bred from L3708. RFLP analysis confirmed the Ph-3 gene derived from L3708 is located on chromosome 9.



The meaning of (genes interact in an epistatic manner )
epistatic (not comparable)

1. (genetics) Of or pertaining to epistasis, the interaction between genes.

I have a lot of self doubt about my work with Late Blight resistance. Since I had great results with sinlgle dominance with WV 700 with my particular strain of it for years 2004-2007. But 2008 is a year that needed homozygous Ph-2 and Ph-3 clones. Mountain Magic has heterozygous genes as a hybrid and it did not survive to the end of the infestation process. Only my most homozygous clone (Ph-2 and Ph-3)survived totally. I will be testing some seedlings from the recent hybrid of WV 700 X homozygous Ph-1 and 2 for this fall. The hybrid would be homozygous for Ph-2 but only heterozygous for Ph-1.


The good news is that I am transferring the genes Ph-2 and Ph-2 into a wide variety of clones such as Black Pineapple, Black Prince, Green Sleeves, WV 700, and many, many more. I've got to remind myself to sow a huge compilation of varieties soon.

The kind of work I am doing with require that I do a large extension collaboration. I will be exploring ideas to that effect soon.

Tom Wagner

CULTIVATED SPECIES ACCESSIONS WITH TUBER FLESH COLOR

PI #

SOLANUM SPECIES

DESCRIPTION

I am putting this list up on the blog to show that I am involved in many types of research. The list below of potatoes from South America will be dug this August 28 in Vancouver, WA.

I have already collected the inter-mated crosses and the tremendous amount of open pollinated berries from a vast majority of these. The tubers will be of some importance to grow again, but the TPS will be invaluable for many years to come. I could plant many acres of transplants grown just from the berries of this group.

Yes the potatoes will be video taped also as they are dug

PI 310490* (phureja)

YELLOW RED

PI 310493*(phureja)

YELLOW

PI 225667*(phureja)

DEEP YELLOW

PI 225667* (phureja)

YELLOW - PURPLE RING

PI 225673*(phureja)

DEEP YELLOW

PI 225677*(phureja)

DEEP PURPLE FLESH - PURPLE MOTTLED ON WHITE FLESH

PI 225686*(phureja)

WHITE - PURPLE RING

PI 225686*(phureja)

DEEP YELLOW

PI 225688(phureja)

YELLOW - PURPLE SPLASH

PI 225689(phureja)

YELLOW - PURPLE SPLASH

PI 225689*(phureja)

YELLOW - PURPLE

PI 225689(phureja)

BRIGHT YELLOW

PI 225689*(phureja)

DEEP PURPLE - DARK YELLOW

PI 225693* (phureja)

DEEP YELLOW

PI 225693*(phureja)

DEEP YELLOW

PI 225694*(phureja)

DEEP YELLOW

PI 225705*(phureja)

DEEP YELLOW

PI 225710*(phureja)

DEEP YELLOW

PI 320355*(phureja)

DEEP PURPLE

PI 320355(phureja)

YELLOW SKIN - DEEP PURPLE

PI 320370(phureja)

YELLOW - RED CENTER

PI 320370*(phureja)

DEEP YELLOW - RED PHLOEM

PI 320373*(phureja)

DEEP YELLOW

PI 320373*(phureja)

DEEP YELLOW

PI 320377*(phureja)

DARK PURPLE SKIN - YELLOW FLESH

PI 320377*(phureja)

DARK YELLOW

PI 320377(phureja)

DEEP PURPLE

PI 320379*(phureja)

DEEP YELLOW

PI 320379* (phureja)

DEEP YELLOW - RED RING

PI 320379*(phureja)

DEEP YELLOW - RED RING

PI 320387(phureja)

DEEP YELLOW

PI 320390(phureja)

PURPLE CENTER

PI 320390*(phureja)

YELLOW

PI 320391*(phureja)

DARK YELLOW

PI 320391*(phureja)

DARK YELLOW

PI 320391*(phureja)

DEEP PURPLE CENTER

PI 320391*(phureja)

DEEP YELLOW

PI 498171*(phureja)

DEEP YELLOW

PI 498171*(phureja)

YELLOW - RED

PI 292110*(stenotomum)

DEEP YELLOW - NEAT SHAPE

PI 205527(stenotomum)

PI 234007* (stenotomum)

DEEP PURPLE

PI 234007*(stenotomum)

DEEP PURPLE

PI 234015(stenotomum)

PI 209421(andigena)

PURPLE FLESH

PI 209421*(andigena)

PI 186179*(andigena)

RED FLESH

PI 214441*(andigena)

BRIGHT YELLOW

PI 217448* (andigena)

BRIGHT YELLOW

PI 280868*(andigena)

LIGHT RED

PI 280871*(andigena)

YELLOW

PI 280921*(andigena)

YELLOW

PI 280952* (andigena)

INTERESTING TUBER

PI 281004*(andigena)

YELLOW

PI 281007(andigena)

PURPLE RING

PI 281012* (andigena)

PURPLE MOTTLED

PI 281079*(andigena)

WHITE SKIN - PURPLE CENTER

PI 281080*(andigena)

PURPLE SKIN - PURPLE RING

PI 281080*(andigena)

PURPLE/WHITE SKIN - DEEP YELLOW

PI 281189(andigena)

RED SPLASH

PI 281189* (andigena)

PURPLE SPIKE IN MIDDLE

PI 281189 (andigena)

PURPLE SPIKE IN MIDDLE

PI 281206* (andigena)

YELLOW - RED

PI 281219 (andigena)

DEEP YELLOW

PI 29211 (andigena)

DEEP YELLOW

PI 473260* (andigena)

YELLOW - RED SPLASH

PI 473260* (andigena)

YELLOW - RED CIRCLE

PI 473260*(andigena)

YELLOW - RED CIRCLE

PI 473260*(andigena)

RED SKIN - RED CENTER

PI 473276*(andigena)

PURPLE - YELLOW

PI 473276* (andigena)

YELLOW

PI 473276*(andigena)

YELLOW

PI 498310*(andigena)

PURPLE SPOTTING

PI 498310*(andigena)

PURPLE CENTER

PI 498310 (andigena)

DEEP PURPLE

CAMPARI -Campari(ng) Descendancies There has been a couple of threads about Campari, namely; http://tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=12120 http://tomatoville.com/showthread.ph...hlight=campari ...and I thought the topic I am bringing forth deserves a new forefrontation. Question. Has anyone segregated the recombinations for filial generations of Campari. Answer. Yes. I have several lines of Campari descendants to the F-5 level. That is stable enough to assert some expectancies. Just today I extracted a knock off line that looks much like the F-1 Campari and I named it CAM PARIS. Pun intended. As F-5 seed, I should be able to use it in some test hybrids. I am hoping that I have some of the VVFFTN of the hybrid left over in the inbred. I will have to look at the other filial generations to select for the best lines as I am trying to duplicate the reputed flavor of the original. Meanwhile back to the Cross Talk. I have a couple of new selections out of a cross of Green Grape to an F-2 of Campari. The first one is Campptown Ladies, a nice look alike, taste alike of Campari but with the tiny seeds of Green Grape. This one is quite firm. I have F-3 seed of that one. A full sib-Paris green- (a shade of green tinged with yellow) is a Green Grape type, but of a thingytail size with extraordinary flavors and sweetness. It is rather soft like Green Grape and has larger seed than I would like. Both of them will be segregated further in the re-combination to fine tune traits that I want. But in case I don't get those traits I crossed the Paris Green with pollen from Camptown Ladies. The cross should be all red if the CL is homozygous for red flesh. The hybrid seed will be selfed next year to get F-2 seed that will shuffle the segregation even further. I would like to get a firm green thingytail tomato with small seed and great flavors and sweetness. Since Campari has long internodes suitable for greenhouse culture, I will note the growth of the assorted progenies and will send seed/plants to greenhouses for evaluation. I hope to salvage the alphabet soup of disease resistancies. I extracted seed today of Camptown Ladies crossed with Stupice. There is a local love affair with Stupice, therefore I am trying to introgress Stupice into as many kinds of tomatoes as possible in the effort to get adapted PNW tomato varieties with whatever magic Stupice offers. I now have F-3 seed of Black Gaspare, named for Gaspare Campari fame. This is a black thingytail tomato that combines Campari, Black Sea Man, Brandywine, and a chilling resistant line. This combination will be tested for chilling resistance so that ripe fruits can be placed in refrigeration without turning mushy. Yet to be found in my myriads of tomato plots, is some F-2 fruits of the cross of Black Prince, Cherokee Purple and an F-2 Campari. The F-1 had 1 1/2 to 2 inch fruits, round red, 3 locules, and productive as all get out. The plants aren't close, one is in the upper Skagit river valley and the other is in Vancouver, WA., nearly 300 miles from each other. I should not be disappointed in the flavor combos. I have been extracting seed from the F-2 fruits of Campari and Savantas, a cluster roma. The fruits are even more firm than Campari and I will be looking for jointless pedicels, and a variety of shapes. I am not sure what I have, so I am not naming any of them yet. Most of what I like has the Campari shape. I will be looking at some yellow cluster recombinants of Campari crosses as soon as I pick them. Some really tall vines are coming out of the Airy Leaf, Pineapple, Elberta Girl, Campari lines crossed to Green Grape. Yes, all in one pedigree. Most are 2 inch red fruits with green getl indicating the success of the cross. I am impressed of how the Green Grape imparts sweetness and smaller seed size. In these crosses, one doesn't see much of the ancestry of Airy Leaf, Pineapple, or Elberta Girl, just Campari and Green Grape. Maybe I will see those lines show up again in the F-2 generation. I put much effort into this treatise, but if anything ever comes out of this work, you may anticipate what it may be. Tom Wagner

The variety Green Sausage was originally called Green Sleeves by me. I have been crossing an F-5 selection of this clone with some interesting lines to create even more great hanging basket tomatoes that have other colors rather than the green when ripe and stiped Green Sleeves. The vines show a marked determinate growth pattern with a procumbant-prostrate nearly flat to the surface expansion of the canopy.

I took my neighbor down to look at my potatoes and tomatoes with her new video camera. For a lady of 76 years young she was able to capture me extracting pollen from a Nordic October and emasculating a cluster of flower buds of a Boyd Dude potato variety. We were able to put our heads together to put the video on her laptop and main computer. I am thinking of using part of it on my blog and maybe in Europe.

Anyway, I had some extra pollen of Nordic October (one of my best reds) and went to a potato seedling growing in a raised bed. I emasculated several buds of the yet un-named seedling and proceeded to tell my neighbor of the pedigree. I said that the original line was CT8406-33, a chacoense/tuuberosum hybrid with slightly blue rings in a purple skinned white flesh potato that was but one of some seedling tubers lines bred for high glycoalkoloids in the foliage to repel Colorado Potato Beetles. This line was either selfed or OP'ed and the result was Red Cat, a red skinned, red fleshed line that had lots of berries. I crossed Red Cat to a male parent called Lenape, a white skinned, white flesh line with high glycoalcoloids. The cross led to the Negro y Azul, a very black/blue skin and fleshed line that saw it's origin on some certified organic ground off I-5 near Buttonwillow, California. Negro y Azul was crossed to Kern Toro, one of my best reds at that time, a combination of NorDonna and Fontenot. The cross of Negro y Azul and Kern Toro led to Azul Toro, an excellent early blue flesh variety. I crossed the female Azul Toro with pollen from Blue Blood Russet, a cross of Blue Cat and an unknown russet seedling. The resulting cross was named Paint Jar, an inky black/blue with occasional white patches in the flesh. I crossed the Paint Jar with pollen from Dark Red Norland and this created Paint Nor. Paint Nor was crossed with pollen from October Blue, a cross of Nordic October, a red similar to Kern Toro with the exception of additional germplasm from Red October that had ND2912-2R in it....to Azul Toro, previously mentioned. The two seedlings in the raised bed has one I named last week as Mule Skinner Blues. The other had to be named and I thought of Mostly Purple and I serendipitously named it MOSTLY PURPLE as I crossed it with pollen from Nordic October...knowing fully that I had permission to do so.

MostlyPurple made my day by posting on my TaterMater Forum. She has some wonderful photos of nine of my potato varieties in full bloom and displaying a few "new" potatoes of such. Not to be totally jealous of her, I put a couple of pictures up to show one of the areas I grow potatoes and the Paint Jar potato as MostlyPurple has in her garden. I am so happy to have customer approval of my seed potatoes. Do I breed potatoes to be flowers? You be the judge! I have posts on my own blog about the sampler I bought earlier this spring...if anyone's interested http://mostlygardening.blogspot.com/2009/07/potatoes-in-bloom.html http://mostlygardening.blogspot.com/2009/07/some-really-new-potatoes.html

I am clarifying the photos of blue tomato lines below with some detail.
The first photo on the top left is a cross of Green Zebra X P-20 Blue (#10 2-28-09) and is a plant outdoors in Seattle. Rather cool climate and lots of clouds, but still showing the effects of the male parent which is blue. Note the dark blue shoulders of the fruit exposed to a bit more sunlight due to pruning.

The photo to the right 0f it is #24 of 2-28-09 showing the fruit cluster of Blue P-20 x Woolly Green Zebra. This is also outdoors in Seattle. It has just a bit more foliar cover than #10. Note the slight expression of the woolly gene.

The photo under #10 is also #10 but grown in a high tunnel greenhouse in the mountains of the upper Skagit River. This plant has lots of leaves and vine covering the fruit and therefore shows less purplish on the shoulders. Note the very slight stripes developing, typical of Green Zebra crosses.

The photo to the right of it shows the P-20 Blue outdoors again in Seattle. Poor cover is allowing the fruit to purple up. The cross tag shows a fruit crossed to a red tomato with the pedigree of Silvery Fir Tree X Pineapple-Elberta Girl. Nicely cut leaves with extreme woolly leaves and very early. The #25 3-309 tag shows the pollen used for the F-1 seed developing.

The bottom picture shows #9 2-28-09 (Blue P-20) as grown in the high row tunnel greenhouse in the upper Skagit area. Lots of foliage covering this fruit and had to push away about two foot of leaves. The plants are left to sprawl naturally so a a dense shade is protecting the fruit from coloring up. All of the fruits are very immature but show the effects of the blue genes.